PX25 Data Sheet. Tube for UX4 socket

Description

PX25 triode

The PX25 is one of the all time classic audio output triodes. Designed in England in 1932, it was the first tube, designed for larger output power.

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Features

The Character of the EML PX25

The PX25 is one of the all time classic audio output triodes. Designed in England in 1932, it was the first tube, designed for larger output power. In the old Marconi Numbering System, P stands for 4V heater, and X stands for Power Tube. In Japan, 4Volt heater tubes have always been more preferred for their sound. Moreover, PX25 is a tube with higher gain, it is around 9x unloaded, which is more than twice as much as 300B. This makes driver circuit easier, and PX25 needs less than 30V RMS signal on the grid, for full output signal. The higher gain of PX25 was achieved by Marconi, by increasing the plate distance. We did the same, and the larger side holes, makes also the glow picture nice looking.

Test data of the PX25.

Just a short note, there is PX25 and PX25A. Though only this letter "A" added, these are completely different tubes, and can not replace each other. All data is fully different. PX25A is like a lower power 300B with 4V heater, but PX25 is a higher impedance tube, with wider anode distance. Be careful buying historical tubes, to be used in the same amplifier, it must be PX25 and not PX25A.

Also, Osram specifies the PX25 at 400V, 62.5mA. We do not understand why some vendors of replica PX25 are using 325V as a test voltage, and then write test results which the OSRAM tube has at 400V. This is strange and curious, because such a tube does not replicate original OSRAM data.

Designing with PX25

One of the greatest circuit designers, was D.T.N. Williamson, who based his amazing work initially on the PX25, using 6J5 tubes a driver. Though PX25 was his favorite tube, it was very hard to obtain for him, as it was in production not very long, and already NOS when he started with PX25. Williamson, who worked at MO Valve and Ferranti, noticed PX25 has remarkable similarity with a Triode strapped KT66, and he used this in the late 1940's an alternative to PX25. He published these findings in some issues of WIRELESS WORLD magazine.

This inspiration of Williamson, who used KT66 Triode strapped, as a replacement for PX25, we want to pass this on! There are so many Triode Mode KT66 circuits around, which can be easily modified into PX25 DHT circuits.

Sound of the PX25

We need to understand the design principle of the PX25 tube. This is a tube with much larger plate distance as usual. We just adopted this from the vintage designs. The larger distance will catch your eye immediately, when looking inside the bulb. Not only will this make the glow picture nicer. Also the higher anode distance results in higher gain, and higher plate impedance. Which is what PX25 sound is about. Generally speaking such tubes have a more silkier sound, and a tendency to develop best efficiency at somewhat higher plate voltage. As with all higher gain tubes, there is a higher influence of the tube itself, to the final sound. For the same reason, a good quality transformer is needed, and a good quality PX25 tube is needed, with original specifications. When these factors come together, sound becomes as intended by it's designers, now almost 100 years ago.

As a transformer, we recommend Lundahl or similar quality.

Moreover, many of the greatest sounding DHT tubes were from the 4Volts series. Such tubes are PX25, AD1, RE134, PX4, RS241 or RE604, were always appreciated for their characteristic, more gentle sound.

EML PX25 Filament Ratings

Filament Voltage

Important: See notes at page bottom

 

= 4 Volt (AC or DC)
Tolerance on filament voltage
4%
Filament Current
2 Ampere

 

EML PX25 Maximum Conditions

Not possible simultaneously

Anode Voltage
500Volt
Anode Current
90mA
Anode Dissipation Continuous
30Watt
Anode Peak Dissipation
37Watt
Highest possible Grid to ground resistor, Single Ended.
250kOhm

Highest possible Grid to ground resistor, Push-Pull.

50kOhm

 

EML PX25 Test conditions
Anode Voltage 400V
Anode Current 62.5mA
.
EML PX25 Test Result
Average values.
Grid Voltage, AC Heated -29V
Grid Voltage, DC Heated -27V
Anode Impedance 1265 Ohms
Amplification Factor 9.1
Transconductance 7.6 mA/V

 

 

PX25 Recommended Single Ended operating points. Other choices are possible.

Anode (V)
vs. Heater

Anode Current
Anode Dissipation
Anode Rp (Ohm)

Load

(Ohm)

Power

Output

Watt)

350*
57mA
**
**
**
400*
62.5mA
25W
1265
3k2
**
450
62.5mA
28W
     
480
62mA
30W
     

* As published by OSRAM

Please note, if higher dissipation than 25 Watt is chosen, you can not replace the EML tube by historic PX25. If replacement is desired, choose maximum 25Watt dissipation,

PX25 tube curves


SPICE Parameters

 

EML PX25 tube curves.

See also Note4

Some recommended Lundahl transformers
 
Primary
Ohms
Secondary
Ohms
LL1679-70mA
4k5
4-8-16
LL1664-080
3k
8

 

EML PX25 Mechanical Data

Size including Socket
(but excluding pins)

148 x 65 mm

Pin 1: Heater1
Pin 4: Heater2
Pin2: Anode
Pin3: Grid

Weight of one tube:
125 Gram

Shipment weight for pair in gift box:
700 Gram

UX4 Base

 

Notes

  1. Hard-metals can be used in electron tubes, though these are more difficult to use, and more costly than the classical nickel. Hard metal Anodes have a more precise Anode distance, and do not change shape when heated, or at mechanical shock. This ensures reproducible tube parameters, and long term stability. Wolfram grids allow the most precise grid wire distance, because wolfram is an extreme hard metal. Best grid geometry ensures uniformity and linearity of the tube curves.
  2. Gold Plated grids have a few advantages, such as increased bias stability, some protection against accidental overload, and better linearity of tube curves.
  3. Individual Test data, such as: Matching Data, Grid Current, Vacuum, Filament Current, etc., are on the Certificate that is on the outside of the tube box. Each tube is numbered from the inside, with a metal Tag
  4. Average Plate Characteristics are made with the Sofia Digital Curve tracer. The curves for the PX25 are plotted, with DC heating. DC heated curves have a shift of the grid voltage of 1/2 the heater voltage vs AC heated. After curve tracing, DC heated curves can be recognized quickly, by the Ug=0V curve not starting at Zero Volt plate voltage. Here, with this tube at appr. +20V plate.
  5. Heater Voltage

    Do not experiment with lower filament voltage, to expect better lifetime. If it was that easy, we would make the tubes like this ourselves. The specified filament voltage is the one for best lifetime.

    Heater voltage is always defined at the tubes pins itself. There may be some voltage drop along the wires, and tube contacts as well. So voltage measured at the tube socket wiring should ideally be 4.1V.

    Original Data Sheets of Osram and Mazda, are mostly referring to DC heating.
  6. Link to wikipedia for Willamson Amplifier